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Was Keats wrong?

FireFire Posts: 19,096
edited April 2018 in The potting shed
Random question: do fruitful apple trees in the UK get very mossy?

   And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;

Is it more likely that Keats in fact writing about lichen? I but have read that lichen tends to grow on elderly, dying trees. He was a Londoner born and bred and not greatly given (I would judge) to closely investigating botanicals, unlike, say, John Clare.

Or is the hyphen in the wrong place? You will see from this manuscript, there is no hyphen (in this draft, at least). Could the moss actually be growing on the cottages (near Winchester)? Which would might make more sense. He revised the poem a lot between writing and publication.

I would be interested in your thoughts.

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Maybe it was because lichen had too many syllables :)
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Ouch!!
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • PalaisglidePalaisglide Posts: 3,414
    edited April 2018

    I remember the orchard where we once played

    The trees so old and knarled yet fruitful still

    Between the trees the soft green grass

    Where boys and girls would ofttimes lay

    as of fresh sweet ripe fruit we ate our fill

    Sunlight through leaves shining like stained  glass.



    Anyone who was brought up with an orchard and a walled garden with those walls covered with fruit trees can tell you old and still lively trees have litchens on them.
    We climbed the trees, tore our knees, went home with green clothes form the l
    itchens to mothers ire. Keats may well have used poetic licence but he was correct.
    My doggerel is from memories of carefree days, times children today very rarely see more is the pity.
    Frank.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    So, do we conclude that mossy apple trees are not a thing?
  • Blue OnionBlue Onion Posts: 2,995
    Epiphytes.. I had to look that one up.

    Moss on U.K. apple tree.  
    http://www2.mmu.ac.uk/news-and-events/news/story/?id=5413

    Seems to depend on what type of apple.  Must have been a Bramley.  


    Utah, USA.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Thanks
  • PalaisglidePalaisglide Posts: 3,414
    Poet's usually do observe life more so than us busy people, Keats and as a very good friend of mine pointed out so did W.H.Davies, we gardeners should take the advice given in his poem Leisure from Songs of Joy.

    What is life if full of care
    We have no time to stand and stare.

    We are all guilty we have a jobs list and get on with it, as I got older I decided to do a couple of jobs then sit and just look, apart from being restful it is also very calming to the soul, I am sure that is what the Poet's are saying, stop look and enjoy, we only ever see that moment in time once.
    Frank.

  • hogweedhogweed Posts: 4,053
    If you watched the Beechgrove, they were pruning two very old apple trees covered in moss. 
    'Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement' - Helen Keller
  • Blue OnionBlue Onion Posts: 2,995
    Oh ya.. good spot Hogweed.  I forgot about those weirdly pruned double arch trees.  The shape was okay.. but they were situated in an odd position in the yard, off to one side of the house.  I wonder what the garden looked like 100 years ago, as I expect the design was very different then.  
    Utah, USA.
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