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Growing and selling plants - should I be concerned about tax?

Hi everyone :smile: I've spent the last few years growing more plants/produce than I will use and selling them locally - this year I plan on buying an allotment so I can grow more, as it's always very well received by everyone. However I'm concerned about tax on sales and if I should be paying them. All the money I get from this is going straight back into next years seeds, pots and everything else. I've tried to find information on sites like this income tax calculator but can't find much about tax on sales anywhere, so I was wondering if anyone here does something similar and knows more about it.

Hope to hear from someone soon :)
Amber C
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  • MuddyForkMuddyFork Posts: 435
    HMRC will expect you to pay tax on profits if you also have a job that you pay PAYE tax on.  So simply put deduct all expenses (compost, pots, seeds etc plus an allowance for your time) from your total takings which leaves you hopefully with profit.  It would then be declared as income on your tax return.  You can earn just under £12,000 per year before you pay tax.  Check out the HMRC website.
  • DampGardenManDampGardenMan Posts: 1,054
    MuddyFork said:
    HMRC will expect you to pay tax on profits if you also have a job that you pay PAYE tax on. 
    But not if you don't?
  • MuddyForkMuddyFork Posts: 435
    Unless you earn in total more than £11,600, I think the figure is going upto for a year, then you will not pay tax on any profits made growing and selling plants
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Always keep records pf expenditure and income so that you can prove just how much profit you do or don't make. 

    As has been said, if you already pay Income Tax, either PAYE or self-assessment, then you need to declare your profits on a Self-Assessment form.   I've always found the Inland Revenue people very helpful as long as you make the first move ... if you hope they just won't find you out they're liable to search out every nook and cranny for undeclared income. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Unless you already have a job and do this as a side line, you won’t pay tax because all your profit will go to buying more equipment in the first couple of years. 

    You need to keep all the receipt from everything you buy, right down to a bag of plant labels, keep a note of everything you sell then take your expenditure off of the plant sale money and what’s left you pay tax on above your threshold limit which alters with age, you’ll need to look online to see yours. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

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  • David WDavid W Posts: 84
    Get an appointment with an accountant, the first discussion will usually be free (but a forum like this is not the place to do so).

    Beware of advice on forums, for example above a suggestion is made to make an allowance for your time as an expense. As a self employed person you cannot do this under tax law as any payment to yoursef is out of profits made and you cannot have an expense deduction against profits that is also paid to yourself as income.

    Your other income needs to be taken into consideration etc, etc, etc.

    Even if you do not make enough to be taxed under self assessment in the U.K. you still have to declare it. 

    Sometimes you can get an agreement from HM Revenue &  Customs that you you are doing it as a hobby and that there is never any profit, the money is ploughed back into your hobby. But this depends on each individual case.

    One final time discuss this with a professional where they can assess your specific individual circumstances and advise accordingly.

    Cheers,


  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Like Dove, I find HMRC to be very helpful.
    I'd call them for up to date advice on your legal responsibilities rather than ask the good, well meaning folks on a gardening forum.
    It's in their interest, and yours , to have the correct information. ( and it's free )
    Devon.
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    A business has to have a turnover of £81k before vat is registered. A hobby such as small scale plant selling is unlikely to be undeclared income and seen as no different from selling the odd item on eBay or a car boot. 
    VAT Registration thresholds have nothing to do with declaring additional income to HMRC.  Not declaring your income is illegal and HMRC are picking up more and more on stuff like garden gate sales, artist's studio sales and eBay. 

    I'm aware of fully employed teachers, who sell the occasional painting at an annual Open Studios event being chased for tax on several years' worth of sales, as well as a person selling potted up cuttings, bags of rhubarb pots of jam and a few eggs a day from a gateway stall with an Honesty Box being chased as well.  eBay sellers' records can and will also be accessed by HMRC 

    Keep records, fill in the forms and declare it all;  HMRC will know you're on the level and you'll be able to sleep at night. 

     :) 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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