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Red leaved tree on chalk ideas

WaysideWayside Posts: 845
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Hi, my partner fancies a red leaved tree in an area that is in partial shade, probably gets full sun from about 11-13.00.  Nothing comes immediately to mind.  Nearby there is a crab and hawthorn.  I thought perhaps there may be a crab apple, but I'm a little worried I have too much Rosaceae already going on, so wouldn't mind another species.

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  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    If your partner would be content with the red leaves just in Autumn, I'd grow one of the deciduous Euonymus (Spindle) trees.  They have gorgeous red autumn leaves, and interesting (but poisonous) red and orange fruit.  Euonymus alatus, the winged spindle, has strange bark too.
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I think the shade factor may be a problem ... autumn colour is always better on trees that get plenty of sunshine in the summer to produce the starches and sugars that make the colours.  

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Japanese barberry?
  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845
    Liriodendron said:
    If your partner would be content with the red leaves just in Autumn, I'd grow one of the deciduous Euonymus (Spindle) trees.  They have gorgeous red autumn leaves, and interesting (but poisonous) red and orange fruit.  Euonymus alatus, the winged spindle, has strange bark too.
    I've planted a small whip one of these.  How long do you think before it gets going?  I could possibly move it to this spot.  Thanks.
  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845
    Firefly0 said:
    Japanese barberry?
    The barberry isn't really a tree though is it?  I have a little shrub getting going, but I don't imagine it to ever get that much beyond a metre in height and width.  And it's pretty ugly out of season.
  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845
    Freddies Dad said:
    Smoke bush aka cotinus coggygria, has red leaves and does fine in those conditions. 
    Yeah, I'd personally like one of these....

    Visible from the back door, so would always give a bit of varied interest.
  • WaysideWayside Posts: 845
    It's not the most shaded of spots.  But doesn't get all that lovely summer afternoon/evening light.  Remember that?
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Wayside said:
    It's not the most shaded of spots.  But doesn't get all that lovely summer afternoon/evening light.  Remember that?
    That strange golden ball in the sky?  I think I remember seeing it once upon a time ... 
     B) 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    Wayside, I don't think Euonymus are the fastest growers.  I have Euonymus europaeus, the native spindle, planted in my garden 7 or 8 years ago as a 10" seedling.  It's now about 5 feet tall.
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
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