The price difference seems to be around £50 for seed or if you say £2 sq M then £320 quid. Which is quite a jump when I could spend that money wisely on other things you see for our young family.. I was of the understanding that seeding is a good option even when compared to turf, is that not the case?
Dave, Thank you again. I really appreciate it. So surface stones at 10mm are ok?
I am sorry if my question seems absurd (probably due to language barrier), but what is the difference between "turf" and "seed" ?
I always thought both to be the same. For instance, when planting the variety " turf type tall fescue - festuca arundinacea", it is called a "turf", but it is spread into the soil as a seed, watered and so on.
I only know two varieties : to seed the lawn or to plant the lawn.
for instance, my lawn is Saint Agostine (with a bit of the Floratam variety) and it was planted, not seed. Then it grows by spreading itself to the sides and the green leafs are born along the path.
Hi HFR. Here in the UK the two ways to create a lawn are by sowing seed, or laying turf. Turf is ready grown grass that is bought by the roll, like a carpet or rug.
Yes, I got your explanation ! In fact I wrote a post right after the first one, as I remembered that some people just layed an already grown patch of lawn directly into prepred soil. Faster, for sure and it looks nice.
Well, that´s not my case. I have Saint Agostine grass in nearly 70m2 of my backyard. I planted it one by one last year and is almost completely full at the moment despite the grass layer is still thin.
Currently looks awful because of the winter. Lots of dry leafs and the green is not strong, except in a zone where I have a different variety of the Saint Agostine, called " Floratam ". That one keeps the green colour stronger and produces very tall leafs. The rest of the grass is very lazy and as a slow growth rate even with proper care. I guess it´s because we´re still in winter time.
Luckily, it looks the "floratam" variety has a faster growth and will be dominant !
I don´t want to hijack the thread !...Maybe i´m talking too much !
Not hijacking or talking too much HFR. The topic is seed/turf ?.
Yes, most lawns can look bad at this time of year, mine included. Once Spring arrives the grass will improve, and regular mowing through the Summer will encourage thicker growth. If yours still has lots of bare patches you might consider overseeding with the stronger floratam in the Autumn.
Well, I don´t have too much bare patches. One here and there. Most of it is already full, but the layer is not that thick. Saint Agostine grass produces a thick layer over the years so, the leaf production will increase with time. Mine was planted in Mar/2017. One by one. It was a lot of work !!
It´s just that I´d like to have a faster leaf growth. I don´t mind mowing more often. It´s fun and relaxing at least for me. But the growth is still slow and it´s dormant in winter.
Last year I´ve used my own garden new "floratam" stolons that were growing above the grass level, instead of growing "attached to the soil". I cut them, and I re-planted the new stolons onto the bare patches. So, I ´ve plenty of this variety spread here and there, despite it is more concentrated at one zone of the garden. But in a close look I can see it spreading in other areas as well.
This is how it looks at the moment. Afwul ! Last weekend I cut only the tallest (and greenest area). Just to make it look more even. People say it´s very normal to have this look here in Portugal in winter.
It´s funny how the lawn grows so much faster closer to that wall. Even the other Floratam stolons don´t grow so fast.
Sometimes I think about mixing the Tall Fescue (festuca arundinacea) in seeds all over the Saint Agostine grass. Maybe it would improve the green colour in the winter and contribute for a "softer" feel all around. Probably the Saint Agostine would always be dominant, which wouldn´t be a bad thing at all.
Maybe testing in a separate would be best. I´m affraid to do something stupid !!
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The price difference seems to be around £50 for seed or if you say £2 sq M then £320 quid. Which is quite a jump when I could spend that money wisely on other things you see for our young family.. I was of the understanding that seeding is a good option even when compared to turf, is that not the case?
Dave, Thank you again. I really appreciate it. So surface stones at 10mm are ok?
Hi everyone,
I am from Portugal. First post here.
I am sorry if my question seems absurd (probably due to language barrier), but what is the difference between "turf" and "seed" ?
I always thought both to be the same. For instance, when planting the variety " turf type tall fescue - festuca arundinacea", it is called a "turf", but it is spread into the soil as a seed, watered and so on.
I only know two varieties : to seed the lawn or to plant the lawn.
for instance, my lawn is Saint Agostine (with a bit of the Floratam variety) and it was planted, not seed. Then it grows by spreading itself to the sides and the green leafs are born along the path.
Ok, If I am not wrong, "turf" means the lawn is already grown and a patch of variable size is transplanted into the new terrain.
Hi HFR. Here in the UK the two ways to create a lawn are by sowing seed, or laying turf. Turf is ready grown grass that is bought by the roll, like a carpet or rug.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=turf+rolls&prmd=simvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC1p6GhILZAhVPb1AKHdx8CJgQ_AUIEigC&biw=600&bih=1024
Turf can be then be laid onto a prepared site for an instant lawn.
A language barrier of my own making there ???.
I hope you can understand my post HFR, and I forgot to say... Welcome to the forum
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Hi Kitty 2,
Yes, I got your explanation ! In fact I wrote a post right after the first one, as I remembered that some people just layed an already grown patch of lawn directly into prepred soil. Faster, for sure and it looks nice.
Well, that´s not my case. I have Saint Agostine grass in nearly 70m2 of my backyard. I planted it one by one last year and is almost completely full at the moment despite the grass layer is still thin.
Currently looks awful because of the winter. Lots of dry leafs and the green is not strong, except in a zone where I have a different variety of the Saint Agostine, called " Floratam ". That one keeps the green colour stronger and produces very tall leafs. The rest of the grass is very lazy and as a slow growth rate even with proper care. I guess it´s because we´re still in winter time.
Luckily, it looks the "floratam" variety has a faster growth and will be dominant !
I don´t want to hijack the thread !...Maybe i´m talking too much !
Last edited: 31 January 2018 11:50:28
Not hijacking or talking too much HFR. The topic is seed/turf ?.
Yes, most lawns can look bad at this time of year, mine included. Once Spring arrives the grass will improve, and regular mowing through the Summer will encourage thicker growth. If yours still has lots of bare patches you might consider overseeding with the stronger floratam in the Autumn.
Well, I don´t have too much bare patches. One here and there. Most of it is already full, but the layer is not that thick. Saint Agostine grass produces a thick layer over the years so, the leaf production will increase with time. Mine was planted in Mar/2017. One by one. It was a lot of work !!
It´s just that I´d like to have a faster leaf growth. I don´t mind mowing more often. It´s fun and relaxing at least for me. But the growth is still slow and it´s dormant in winter.
Last year I´ve used my own garden new "floratam" stolons that were growing above the grass level, instead of growing "attached to the soil". I cut them, and I re-planted the new stolons onto the bare patches. So, I ´ve plenty of this variety spread here and there, despite it is more concentrated at one zone of the garden. But in a close look I can see it spreading in other areas as well.
This is how it looks at the moment. Afwul !
Last weekend I cut only the tallest (and greenest area). Just to make it look more even. People say it´s very normal to have this look here in Portugal in winter.
It´s funny how the lawn grows so much faster closer to that wall. Even the other Floratam stolons don´t grow so fast.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rDaJ4eHYirkFWQIYtdmpJDJzmvady2R5/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vwBy3DJgnxL_xfouAW3NSCM9H6Kf4B2g/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fLb9ZwV4bF85HLkaSk7yX5bE9NbrP4EC/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Oj8_WdDq31rQCCg6pYl1ltMNxxpG5NDw/view?usp=drivesdk
Sometimes I think about mixing the Tall Fescue (festuca arundinacea) in seeds all over the Saint Agostine grass. Maybe it would improve the green colour in the winter and contribute for a "softer" feel all around. Probably the Saint Agostine would always be dominant, which wouldn´t be a bad thing at all.
Maybe testing in a separate would be best. I´m affraid to do something stupid !!