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Weed Identification

These are growing in their hundreds in the compost.  They could only have come from the woodland leafmould.  Does anyone know what they are at this early stage?image

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  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340

    The ones in the pot could be cleavers (little velcro balls) 
    No idea what the sprouts are - I'd pop em in a stir-fry :)


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445

    looks like Goosegrass, Galium aparine



    In the sticks near Peterborough
  • Agree with previous posters, Galium aparine aka Cleavers, Goosegrass, Sticky Willy and a host of other common names.  Bit of a nuisance when the seeds get into compost as they will nearly all germinate at some point in the year.

    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • Thanks for your comments.  I thought those tiny and shiny black balls could be identified but I can't find them when Googling.

  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340

    The black seeds do look a bit brassica-like, but that's not much help really.
    I think the reason you have seeds germinating in your compost is that it didn't get hot enough in the composting process.
    If you can get the heat up enough,  - by adding the right materials (inc. cardboard) and turning it a couple of times - it'll kill most seeds.
    You're not alone, I get things germinating from my compost too, but not too many.
    It's best not to add any perennial weeds that have seed heads to the compost bin.


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Pete8:  You're right the seeds are germinating because of the lack of temperature.  With my method this will happen.  All fruit, veg and seaweed is put through a food processor, chicken poo is dry crumbled, mature leafmould is fine sieved, then continually turned.  The temperature ranges from 5 to 18 degrees only depending on the season so it never cooks like traditional compost.  However, in side by side tests it produces 40 per cent more fruit than using John Innes.

  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340

    Sounds like wonderful stuff you're making there Oc!
    I don't make 'proper' compost either as I put in a lot of shreddings from tree prunings which take years to break down, but it does get hot and even steamy sometimes. I use it as a general mulch - and also get weeds appearing from compost seeds.
    I recall Monty taking the temperature in his compost heap last year - it was 60c!


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • Pete8:  I read somewhere that cold composting may take extra time but retains more nutrients.  Pity the method can't be mechanised as continual re-crumbling by fingertip is a labour of love (I can only produce about 600 litres each year! 

  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340

    That's 600 litres more than I do ;)

    My 'method' seems to work for me - my 3 bins get filled mostly with shredded prunings and dead plants in the autumn - and plenty of weeds all year round. Lots of cardboard (thanks Amazon!) and grass clippings. I give them a turn in spring and again in summer and by Oct it's good enough as a mulch, then I start again.


    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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