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The pros and cons of having a wild flower area

We are considering changing a scrubby waste area into a wild flower meadow - the land is approx. 20 foot wide by 80 foot long.  I would be interested to read of any of your experiences and helpful advice. Thanks. 

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  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719

    Could we have some pictures, I have some pics on the garden design forum. I tried 3 years ago, to get a wildflower meadow started, bought seeds, they didnt germinate, bought perenial plugs (expensive) and scoffed over night by slugs.  2 years ago, I treated myself to a wildflower turf, 80% flower 20% grass mix from Wiggly Wigglers, but it was £30, plus postage, I had had to wait till they were cutting bigger orders, nearly killed me digging off the grass for it, lat year I treated myself to a piece of border wildflower turf, slightly different mix, same price, it looks great this year.  We have a little "orchard" I call it, apples, pears, plums, both sides of a path to my veg plot, desided to do the bigger half complete wildflower meadow, hired a turf cutting in May this year, had to wait till july because of the weather, bought 100% wildflower this time, because I know the grass will seed its self in.  This time from Tillers Turf, cost aorund £16 a sq.metre, delivered price, got 10 sq.mt, because of the funny shapes around the trees, and cost I opted to put plug palnts round the other apple tree, plus I have bought sowed wildflower seed, colllected some in fields, sprinkled on,was lucky it rained the next couple of days, so it now looks much better than in the pics, when it was newly laid. You may well get away with a spring seed sowing if the area is already scrubby.

  • At this stage we haven't decided which would be best Pansy, although I like the sound of annuals.  It really depends on the amount of work involved, which after reading Nanny B's trials and tribulations seems like a huge amount of effort.  It is a question of trial and error and how much effort my OH is prepared to spend on this "mad" idea of mine.  I don't think it is mad, in fact I think we are well suited for  it, we have masses of insects, pollinators and the like here and we are surrounded by fields and gardens. I will provide some photos in the next day or two. 

    I believe that the soil has to be poor and not enriched for wild fl. to thrive, which is just how our soil is.  In fact we will probably have it tested before embarking on any sowing.  It will be a winter project and one that I am looking forward to embarking on.

  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719

    Yes, you need rubbish soil/.  to be honest I am amazed my Hubby went for it.  I have a mix of annuals and perennial, because you cant guarantee a self sow.  I had been trying for the 3 years to get the flanders poppies, finnally got TWO this year, mind you I have a tesco express nearby, "they" (whoever) have removed a phone box there is a poppy there, am waiting patiently for it to go to seed, its on a bit of tatty wasteground dont think anyone will miss it!

  • RedwingRedwing Posts: 1,511

    It is really difficult to manage a wildflower meadow.  You need to decide whether you want a spring one or a summer one.  That will determine the mowing regime.  I tried for a couple of years; it looked great in the first year  but was a tremendous amount of work and we couldn't really cope.  I didn't properly think it out and had lots of summer flowering annuals.  The mowing is the problem.  You need a strong person who can use an allen scythe, was the conclusion I came to which is why we gave up on it. We didn't have a mower up to the job, even the small tractor mower couldn't cope with the first cut in about August. 

    I now have a small area which has spring wildflowers and bulbs in grass and we mow it from June onwards.  This is working better but it's early days yet.

    Based in Sussex, I garden to encourage as many birds to my garden as possible.
  • I have a small raised bed area on the side of a field, which is full of wild flowers now, which I reseed each spring, but I would be prepared to give this up if we can get the larger area to be successful instead.

    Your flowers in grass sounds promising Redwing and I hope it proves to be easier to cope with.  Do you have any pictures of it in flower?

  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719

    pansyface and redwing, can we have some pics please, I have an area of about 20 sm, GG, I bought what they call logrow this time, with a maximum height of 75cm, the original stuff gets up to 1.5, but that was really because I had waited several months for the stuff to be ready, and was wanting to get on with it, it is gradually getting taller, and I expect some of thetaller stuff will seed itself over there. Course I dont know if they would deliver to you, I was going to go to Guildford which is the nearest place to me that sells the Tillers, but it was still about 160 mile round trip, meant hiring a flatbed, so in the end desided it was cheaper and a lot less agro to pay a couple of quid a sm to have it delivered to the door.You (obviously) can get a list of the plats therein on their site.

  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719

    Thats brilliant pansyface, just the look I am after, the logrow I bought says it will give flowering each month, its not just a summer thing, the last cou[ple of bits I cut with shears then mowed.I shant be mowing the new it this year.

  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719

    Having been a typist back in the day of "manual" typewriters, I type too fast for the key boards, so several letters dont come out!

  • Richard168Richard168 Posts: 115

    This year I have put aside about three quarters of an acre of the orchard to grow wild, mainly because it is on a slope and I didnt like taking the ride on mower there. I have not added anything to it as I am happy to see how it develops over time.

    We have a lot of native foxgloves growing around and about (East Cornwall) and I am considering collecting seeds and scattering them randomly and anything else native over time.

    No idea how it will turn out but already the wildlife like it

  • Just posting a picture of the proposed "wild flower" area, we have been told that we don't need to worry about the perennial weeds, but I am not convinced that they would dominate the flowers and become a nuisance.image

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