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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Indeed. All these things [graphs/statistics] are often misleading because of what they omit. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • Fairygirl said:
    Indeed. All these things [graphs/statistics] are often misleading because of what they omit. 
    However, if we don't work with the best data we have, knowing its limitations, we are flying completely blind.

    That is from 2019, and the top source which is the BP Statistical Review of World Energy, and is the last pre-Covid one.
    https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/energy-economics/statistical-review-of-world-energy.html
    “Rivers know this ... we will get there in the end.”
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited August 2021
    Fairygirl said:
    I really don't see how anyone can compare Italy with Sweden and be realistic.
    ... but it's interesting. Yes, climate plays a part. But the Netherlands is similar to Sweden, double the energy usage per capita, with a parallel climate to the UK. I wondered if levels of poverty has a role; domestic industry; car ownership levels.

  • Fairygirl said:
    I really don't see how anyone can compare Italy with Sweden and be realistic. 
    Have you looked at their climates? There's no comparison! Of course you'd use more energy if you lived in a Scandinavian country, despite their focus on good insulation etc. While parts of Italy are obviously cold [ the Alps...]  it doesn't get anywhere near it, not to mention the amount of daylight in winter which means more lighting.
    I disagree there. I would say that differences are as important as similarities for learning.

    On a more domestic scale, it is quite normal for two halves of a semi-detached pair of houses to differ by that much.

    If one has an Energy Performance Report i Band E, and the other in Band B, then the one with an E will (all other things being equal) be using twice as much energy per annum as the B for heating and running the house.




    “Rivers know this ... we will get there in the end.”
  • Ferdinand2000Ferdinand2000 Posts: 537
    edited August 2021
    Hostafan1 said:
    Something to bear in mind when looking at a graph of this nature is that what's not included.
    For example all the energy use in other countries used to create and supply these countries with goods and services.
    and the taxes folk pay to provide it.

    That one cuts both ways of course.

    Part of Germany's extra energy use is perhaps because it has an export surplus.

    I might do another of these threads on energy use once I get my data together :)
    “Rivers know this ... we will get there in the end.”
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I imagine the age of national housing stock and the urban/rural population split will make quite a difference too. If Sweden is exporting much of its hydro power to other countries, the running of that infrastructure etc will be adding.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    "I disagree there. I would say that differences are as important as similarities for learning."

    ...but what are you learning?  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    We got our car for £1600 3 years ago (our first car BTW, we didn't need one before moving to the countryside). And it can take us to the nearest international airport (100 miles) and back.
    It will take a long time before decent electric cars (higher range) hit the 2nd hand market.
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    Has anyone thought about 20 years on when the electric cars are worn out ? What happens to all the batteries and miscellaneous etc ,how do we dispose of it 
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    bcpathome said:
    Has anyone thought about 20 years on when the electric cars are worn out ? What happens to all the batteries and miscellaneous etc ,how do we dispose of it 
    maybe dump it along with the nuclear waste we don't know what to do with either?
    Devon.
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