Agree @steveTu. Kids can carry the virus and therefore infect any people they come in contact with at home etc. As for the government, I hope we all accept that it has been an unbelievably complex situation to manage and I am not sure many comparable countries have done a lot better. However I remain very angry about the way they have ignored advice from the experts it has sought the advice from, only to back track later.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
I think most reasonable people agree @punkdoc ... it’s so hard because we are dealing with the unknown .... however, seeking advice from the scientists and medics and then ignoring it, is just wilful risk-taking and not what a government whose first responsibility is the safety of the population should be doing.
It’s not the case government’s job to be popular ... the responsibility for taking the hard decisions and communicating them clearly is on no one’s shoulders but theirs.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
The biggest difference between this lockdown and the previous versions is that there will be rules rather than guidance. Those rules are due to become law tomorrow. Hopefully those who ignore them this time round will be in for an expensive shock.
Another of the many issues is that an increasing number of people don't seem to watch or listen to mainstream news. With the first lockdown there were many people on my Allotment site that were completely unaware of what was happening.
Agree @steveTu. Kids can carry the virus and therefore infect any people they come in contact with at home etc. As for the government, I hope we all accept that it has been an unbelievably complex situation to manage and I am not sure many comparable countries have done a lot better. However I remain very angry about the way they have ignored advice from the experts it has sought the advice from, only to back track later.
But if people don’t want to risk catching it and they have their vaccination, apart from people with the egg allergy who will have to take extra care, I can’t see a problem.
The main problem I see is that a lot of people don’t want to have the vaccination for one reason or another, mostly because they think a big force somewhere just wants to control them, what with Bill Gates putting that microchip in it.
I’m not sure yet whether a vaccine that has been tested and needs a follow up in 3-4 weeks time will be effective in 12 weeks time.
It could be that they want majority of people to be half protected which will save a much underfunded NHS.. I can see this leading people into a false sense of security.
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I have just been looking at a survey conducted by Imperial College in mid November asking about 1000 in each of around 20 countries ‘Would you have a Covid vaccine if one became available next year?’ The % of people who agreed or strongly agreed they would take it was, in my view, surprisingly low. The responses - in brackets - were even lower when ‘next week’ was substituted for ‘next year’.
I bet numbers would be higher if the survey was done again now.
UK 65 (54) Australia 62 (58) S Korea 59 (49) Italy 52 (44) Netherlands 51 (45) Germany 50 (40) Japan 50 (39) Singapore 49 (36) Sweden 44 (35) Spain 41 (28) France 35 (25)
I agree. One thing is sure: we won’t be holidaying in France any time soon. I know it is only coincidence but we have a downer on France anyway because our last three planned trips there have had to be cancelled as my wife was diagnosed with cancer just beforehand.
I think the time when it was common for people to die from things that we can now vaccinate against is fading from living memory, at least in first-world countries. I remember my grandma telling me how common it used to be for people to die of TB when I made a bit of a fuss about having the vaccination, aged 11 or so. Since then I've had every vaccination I've been told I should have, and I would have a Covid vaccine tomorrow if I were offered it.
Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
As vaccine refuses and Covid deniers don't believe there is any danger ,I'm sure they'd be happy to sign a waiver allowing better access to treatment to the 'gullible'. We would have to find somewhere to park them should they succumb to this non-existent threat but I'm sure there are plenty of empty facilities which could be used for the purpose until the survivors are safe to be let out.
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Kids can carry the virus and therefore infect any people they come in contact with at home etc.
As for the government, I hope we all accept that it has been an unbelievably complex situation to manage and I am not sure many comparable countries have done a lot better. However I remain very angry about the way they have ignored advice from the experts it has sought the advice from, only to back track later.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
The main problem I see is that a lot of people don’t want to have the vaccination for one reason or another, mostly because they think a big force somewhere just wants to control them, what with Bill Gates putting that microchip in it.
I’m not sure yet whether a vaccine that has been tested and needs a follow up in 3-4 weeks time will be effective in 12 weeks time.
It could be that they want majority of people to be half protected which will save a much underfunded NHS.. I can see this leading people into a false sense of security.
I bet numbers would be higher if the survey was done again now.
UK 65 (54)
Australia 62 (58)
S Korea 59 (49)
Italy 52 (44)
Netherlands 51 (45)
Germany 50 (40)
Japan 50 (39)
Singapore 49 (36)
Sweden 44 (35)
Spain 41 (28)
France 35 (25)
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/institute-of-global-health-innovation/GlobalVaccineInsights_ICL-YouGov-Covid-19-Behaviour-Tracker_20201202_v6.pdf%5B15%5D.pdf
If it wasn't for vaccines the human race may well not exist now.
What is wrong with people?
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border