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Environmental impact of the meat industry

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  • I think @lyn means that they've completed their life cycle and are being 'recycled' in one way or another themselves.  It's tongue in cheek  ;)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • SkandiSkandi Posts: 1,723
    Slightly off topic, I got a new lodger a couple of months ago, she's all into environmental volunteering etc etc, and talks a good talk, but the amount of food she throws out, everything bought in small packs all individually plastic wrapped is well astounding, she'll bake something and for some reason decide to double or triple the recipe and of course most of it ends up in the bin. She also has three bathroom cupboards full of products in plastic bottles, and never puts anything into the recycling. we've found the amount going into the rubbish bin has doubled since she moved in.
    So it's amazing how people talk the talk but really don't walk the walk.

    I personally have around 3 acres of land that cannot grown crops, 2 acres are too wet for machinery in spring and autumn.  and the last acre is an old gravel pit so steep sides and thin soil. These are the places animals should go.
    There is also a more than slightly inconvenient issue with plant proteins in the north, namely we need a good summer to get beans mature enough to dry. the only one that does grow is peas.. Pease pudding anyone? Hot or cold new or old.. your choice.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    It certainly is dove, but was said by someone famous at some time can’t remember who though,
    If you’re  on this planet your causing pollution, if you have more than two children your causing even more. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Skandi said:

    So it's amazing how people talk the talk but really don't walk the walk.

    I personally have around 3 acres of land that cannot grown crops, 2 acres are too wet for machinery in spring and autumn.  and the last acre is an old gravel pit so steep sides and thin soil. These are the places animals should go.
    There is also a more than slightly inconvenient issue with plant proteins in the north, namely we need a good summer to get beans mature enough to dry. the only one that does grow is peas.. Pease pudding anyone? Hot or cold new or old.. your choice.
    I do agree so much.  On another point, I have said elsewhere we have a GD who did a vegan menu for her GCSE exams this summer. The amount of Cr*p you have to use to make recipes  work! Xanthan gum anyone?
    AB Still learning

  • Bee witchedBee witched Posts: 1,295
    I'll be sorry I've posted this  .... but here goes   

    The last time I ate meat was over 40 years ago, and I no longer eat eggs or any dairy produce. This is my choice ... and I've never preached to anyone that they should do the same.
    I love my food .... and really enjoy the very wide range of food I eat. I never think I'm missing out. 

    There are climate change talks being reported in tonight's news bulletin .... the scientists say we are approaching "the point of no return" ...  we should all be shocked by this. 

    I agree with the point made by @punkdoc ... small changes by all of us would add up. 

    I can't influence what people in other countries eat ... they also have the right to make choices for themselves - as I have. But I do fear for the very many poor nations who will be the first to start feeling the worst effects of our changing climate.

    We do have a responsibility to care about what we are all doing to our planet.

    Bee x
    Gardener and beekeeper in beautiful Scottish Borders  

    A single bee creates just one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey in her lifetime
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Didn’t see that news bulletin, did they mention airplanes and ships, pollution on one trip equal to one years household pollution.
    They don’t usually because it suits them not too.

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Bee witchedBee witched Posts: 1,295
    Hi @Lyn,

    It was about the United Nations climate conference currently taking place in Madrid.
    https://unfccc.int/cop25

    So it's looking at all causes of global warming .... not just food choices ... and agreeing actions to try and reverse the current rises. 

    Here's hoping they can make progress.

    Bee x

    Gardener and beekeeper in beautiful Scottish Borders  

    A single bee creates just one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey in her lifetime
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Always bear in mind that science only knows what science knows AT A POINT IN TIME - science evolves (as it must do) and views change. Science just documents, it doesn't create (in as much as it can't create something that can't be created - if that makes sense).
    My bug bear is scientists talking as if they are at the pinnacle of knowledge and that their view then is immutable. 'Standing on the shoulders of giants' has two meanings.




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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Problem is, if they are right, then in 50 years time large parts of the world will be uninhabitable.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
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