OK. How about buying a copy of Jekka McVicar's book on edible flowers? You'd be surprised what's appearing on Michelin* menus in Paris and Nantes and sourced from a member of L'Asphodèle who has a small holding dedicated to unusual edible flowers and leaves - calendula, cosmos, dahlias, dianthus, fuchsias, hemerocallis and loads more
Thanks for info😊😊I am longing for the Elderflower to come out as make Cordials to sell and Beignets for us as special treat. Day lilies are so pretty and taste of cucumber. Pale colours are better ..red are fairly bitter. Not brave enough yet to try dahlia tubers which apparently replace potatoes nicely! Most flowers are good in Salads. I pop calendula flowers in my scones to replace saffron. Violets all over garden, so shall make violet syrup to pop in the icing for my cupcakes next week. Have made Dandelion Jam this week and Nettles are coming along nicely to make scones with goat cheese and nettle jelly. Always willing to learn more even without a dictionary 😊😊
Hi everyone and welcome chriscavell😊 At last warmer days have arrived as promised and snow has gone. I don't know why we complain really because my cousin has just emailed me to say it's not bad there -20c!!!! She told me that she would be starting her seeds off this week!! Here is the Lunar Calender 15-22nd Feb. 15/16/17th Feb Leaf Days as per every month when the Moon is in front of Pisces sow lettuce and Batavia to harvest in May.Sow some Spring Spinach and Dandelions (I have never tried cultivated ones..just pull young leaves from flower beds and potager) Start sowing herbs. In particular Parsley Chervil & Chives. 18th Fruit Day No gardening recommended before 3.30pm as Moon apogee. Sow some round peas. Mangetout and broad beans.preferably where they are to be situated. 19/20/21st Feb Root Days sow onions and leeks. No gardening recommended before 6.50am on 21st noued descending. I shall recap on Noeuds/apogee and perigee later this week. So pleased to have you with us chriscavell, have you joined a Bio Gardening Club yet? Happy Gardening 😊
Hi Sorry... I don't tend to log on all that often so only just seen your very kind welcome. I haven't joined one yet, is there one you would recommend?
Biofreak said :- All Planets cut the eclypticique plan twice during their circuit around the Sun and also form Noeuds. Mercury and Venus being nearest the Sun form the more Noeuds than planets a further distance away. When these Noeuds also tie in with Mars and the Moon we see massive shifts in the weather pattern.
I have heard that while Dahlia tubers are edible, you need to be fairly desperate, they have not had the years of selective breeding that potatoes have to get the variety of flavour and textures that we enjoy. 🙂
Never mind the tubers, the flowers are edible. Slightly different flavours depending on petal colour but pretty in a salad or scattered on an iced cake. My chooks like them too.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
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The Gravitational Force of the Moon on Objects on the Earth Just as the Earth pulls on the Moon, the Moon pulls on the Earth and everything else in space. The strength of the Moon's gravitational force is given by Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation
F = G m MMoon / r2Moon
where G if Newton's gravitational constant, m is the mass of the object being pulled on by the Moon, MMoon is the mass of the Moon, and rMoon is the distance between the Moon and the object. A similar force acts between the Earth and various objects, except that we use the distance to the Earth, rEarth, and the mass of the Earth, MEarth, in place of the lunar values. Since the Earth's force on something is the object's weight, W, we can write
W = F = G m MEarth / r2Earth
MMoon / MEarth is about 1/80, and for an object at the surface of the Earth rEarth is about 4000 miles, while rMoon is about 240,000 miles, or 60 times greater; so at the surface of the Earth the pull of the Moon is 80 times smaller than the object's weight because of its lesser mass, and another 3600 (= 60 squared) times smaller because of its greater distance. Combining these two effects, the Moon's pull on objects near the Earth is only 1/300,000th of their Earth weight. So if something weighs 150 pounds due to the pull of the Earth, the pull of the Moon on that object would be about 150/300000, or 1/2000th of a pound or 0.000226796185kgs - let's call that 0.3grms between friends.
As individual molecules of air gases in the atmosphere and water inside plants are minuscule in comparison - the numbers don't seem to support any measurable Moon effects. For Mars, the picture is even more bleak - as it's 140 million miles away on average, it's gravity is 38% of the Earths so once you put that through the inverse square law - effects are negligible here.
On the other hand Experiments on board the International Space Station are consistently showing Arabidopsis thaliana growth patterns in sympathy with their orbit - no waiting around for BioFreak's posts when you pass the Moon every 92mins! Bear in mind that these experiments take place in perfect growing conditions under controlled lighting - most scientists expected growth to be constant (me too!) but it isn't! They've had to develop image interpreting software linked to microscopes - read that as teaching a computer what a root looks like and then to measure it! Seedling roots of this little weed grow about 10mm per day and though the rate of growth real does fluctuate - you need high power magnification and Nasa computers to see it.
Yes but the moon causes tides in the sea and changes in river levels, particularly at certain times. It's reasonably certain that it causes changes in ground water levels too. This is what makes sowing and planting & harvesting at certain times more favourable. I am sure biofreak can give more detail.
Posts
https://www.amazon.fr/Cooking-Flowers-Jekka-Mcvicar/dp/1856264831
and
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1678984.Good_Enough_to_Eat
so she can sell her plants as edibles
Sorry... I don't tend to log on all that often so only just seen your very kind welcome.
I haven't joined one yet, is there one you would recommend?
Can you post a link to the relative data?
Just as the Earth pulls on the Moon, the Moon pulls on the Earth and everything else in space. The strength of the Moon's gravitational force is given by Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation
F = G m MMoon / r2Moon
where G if Newton's gravitational constant, m is the mass of the object being pulled on by the Moon, MMoon is the mass of the Moon, and rMoon is the distance between the Moon and the object. A similar force acts between the Earth and various objects, except that we use the distance to the Earth, rEarth, and the mass of the Earth, MEarth, in place of the lunar values. Since the Earth's force on something is the object's weight, W, we can write
W = F = G m MEarth / r2Earth
MMoon / MEarth is about 1/80, and for an object at the surface of the Earth rEarth is about 4000 miles, while rMoon is about 240,000 miles, or 60 times greater; so at the surface of the Earth the pull of the Moon is 80 times smaller than the object's weight because of its lesser mass, and another 3600 (= 60 squared) times smaller because of its greater distance. Combining these two effects, the Moon's pull on objects near the Earth is only 1/300,000th of their Earth weight. So if something weighs 150 pounds due to the pull of the Earth, the pull of the Moon on that object would be about 150/300000, or 1/2000th of a pound or 0.000226796185kgs - let's call that 0.3grms between friends.
As individual molecules of air gases in the atmosphere and water inside plants are minuscule in comparison - the numbers don't seem to support any measurable Moon effects. For Mars, the picture is even more bleak - as it's 140 million miles away on average, it's gravity is 38% of the Earths so once you put that through the inverse square law - effects are negligible here.
On the other hand
Experiments on board the International Space Station are consistently showing Arabidopsis thaliana growth patterns in sympathy with their orbit - no waiting around for BioFreak's posts when you pass the Moon every 92mins!
Bear in mind that these experiments take place in perfect growing conditions under controlled lighting - most scientists expected growth to be constant (me too!) but it isn't! They've had to develop image interpreting software linked to microscopes - read that as teaching a computer what a root looks like and then to measure it!
Seedling roots of this little weed grow about 10mm per day and though the rate of growth real does fluctuate - you need high power magnification and Nasa computers to see it.
It's about lunar influence on water on earth, be it tides or water tables or plant cells.